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Old Gringo

  • 1989
  • R
  • 1h 59min
NOTE IMDb
5,7/10
2,2 k
MA NOTE
Gregory Peck, Jane Fonda, and Jimmy Smits in Old Gringo (1989)
Official Trailer
Lire trailer1:40
1 Video
24 photos
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Ajouter une intrigue dans votre langueLooking for change late in life, Harriet travels for a job as teacher in Mexico. The revolutionaries use her to gain access to a fortified estate. There she meets General Arroyo and befriend... Tout lireLooking for change late in life, Harriet travels for a job as teacher in Mexico. The revolutionaries use her to gain access to a fortified estate. There she meets General Arroyo and befriends Old Gringo, a writer.Looking for change late in life, Harriet travels for a job as teacher in Mexico. The revolutionaries use her to gain access to a fortified estate. There she meets General Arroyo and befriends Old Gringo, a writer.

  • Réalisation
    • Luis Puenzo
  • Scénario
    • Carlos Fuentes
    • Aída Bortnik
    • Luis Puenzo
  • Casting principal
    • Jane Fonda
    • Gregory Peck
    • Jimmy Smits
  • Voir les informations de production sur IMDbPro
  • NOTE IMDb
    5,7/10
    2,2 k
    MA NOTE
    • Réalisation
      • Luis Puenzo
    • Scénario
      • Carlos Fuentes
      • Aída Bortnik
      • Luis Puenzo
    • Casting principal
      • Jane Fonda
      • Gregory Peck
      • Jimmy Smits
    • 25avis d'utilisateurs
    • 17avis des critiques
  • Voir les informations de production sur IMDbPro
    • Récompenses
      • 2 nominations au total

    Vidéos1

    Old Gringo
    Trailer 1:40
    Old Gringo

    Photos24

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    Rôles principaux47

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    Jane Fonda
    Jane Fonda
    • Harriet Winslow
    Gregory Peck
    Gregory Peck
    • Bitter
    Jimmy Smits
    Jimmy Smits
    • Arroyo
    Patricio Contreras
    Patricio Contreras
    • Col. Frutos Garcia
    Jenny Gago
    Jenny Gago
    • La Garduna
    Gabriela Roel
    Gabriela Roel
    • La Luna
    Sergio Calderón
    Sergio Calderón
    • Zacarias
    • (as Sergio Calderon)
    Guillermo Ríos
    Guillermo Ríos
    • Monsalvo
    • (as Guillermo Rios)
    Jim Metzler
    Jim Metzler
    • Ron
    Samuel Valadez De La Torre
    • Consul Saunders
    Anne Pitoniak
    • Mrs. Winslow
    Pedro Armendáriz Jr.
    Pedro Armendáriz Jr.
    • Pancho Villa
    • (as Pedro Armendariz Jr.)
    Stanley Grover
    • Gen. Saunders
    Josefina Echánove
    Josefina Echánove
    • Clementina
    • (as Josefina Echanove)
    Pedro Damián
    Pedro Damián
    • Capt. Ovando
    • (as Pedro Damian)
    Maya Zapata
    Maya Zapata
    • Dolores
    José Olivares
    • Trinidad
    • (as Jose Olivares)
    Alicia del Lago
    • Trinidad's Wife
    • Réalisation
      • Luis Puenzo
    • Scénario
      • Carlos Fuentes
      • Aída Bortnik
      • Luis Puenzo
    • Toute la distribution et toute l’équipe technique
    • Production, box office et plus encore chez IMDbPro

    Avis des utilisateurs25

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    5planktonrules

    It looks nice...but that's all...

    The idea for this film isn't bad. Back in 1913, a sickly and aging writer (Ambrose Bierce) decided to go to one of the most exciting and dangerous places on the planet--Mexico during the revolution that followed the ouster of the dictator, Porfirio Diaz. While no one knows for sure why he chose to do this, the film's contention that he was suicidal and wanted to "go out with a bang" seems quite reasonable. However, exactly what happened to the man is a total mystery--and to this day no one knows exactly what happened to him. Contact with his simply stopped! This film seems to create a fictionalized idea of what COULD have happened to Bierce (played by Gregory Peck). However, the film did so by creating a fictionalized character of an American teacher (Jane Fonda) who gets tricked into walking into the midst of the fighting--and, naturally, slowly is won over to the side of the soldiers of Pancho Villa--though Villa himself does not appear in the film until the end. In the meantime, Fonda and Peck meet with and spend time with General Aroyo (I have no idea if he was a real person or fictionalized--I assume he was fictionalized since I found nothing on him on the internet). Aroyo is played by Jimmy Smits.

    So what did I think of this film? Well, on one hand it was a lovely film. The music and cinematography worked together to make a film that was quite pleasing to the senses. The slow pacing and evocative spirit was quite nice. Plus, the three leads are all very good actors and you have to respect their talents. However, despite these factors, the film also had a lot of problems--too many to make it worth seeking out yourself. While it looked good, the film was, after a while, incredibly boring. The plot just seemed to stagnate after a while and seemed to go no where--like they never really worked out the plot completely. And, the most serious problem is that it's hard to like or relate to the characters. Just when you start to connect with them, they behave in ways that make you either hate them or wonder what the @%## motivates them. It's rare to see a movie that has characters that are more ill-defined--and excellent acting can't make up for that.

    There is one final problem with the film, though most who watch it won't realize it. As a history teacher, I was well acquainted with the Mexican revolution. The various factions, frankly, were all pretty screwed up! While there were things to admire about Pancho Villa and his faction, he was also a blood-thirsty bandit as well as reformer--provided HE was the one doing all the reforms. As for the alternatives, they weren't any better. The ideas of land reform and democracy were wonderful--too bad no one leading any of the factions really did anything to actually improve the lot for the average Mexican! A lot of people died, but essentially the country wasn't much better off when all was said and done. So, in a war when there are no clear "good guys", who do you care about in this film?!

    As for Miss Fonda and Mr. Peck, they both have been long-time leftists--and very pro-revolution. I strongly suspect that this is why they made this film. I am all in favor of revolution when it means getting rid of evil, but like the Beatles song "Revolution", such movements need to have more to them than just a desire to change things. I wish in hindsight they'd chosen a more productive and life-changing revolution to dramatize--such as the "Velvet Revolution" Czechsolovakia or the fall of the Berlin Wall in 1989. Just my two cents worth.
    6smitty008

    Not bad, but too cluttered

    Old Gringo is perhaps not as bad as has been made out by other reviewers, but it is not without its problems. The basic plot (generic war movie) is sufficient, but casting three headliners and trying to make sure they all get their stories and screen time in hollows out all three characters. All three characters were actually worthy of being portrayed as the lead, but it seems that none of the trio actually was. The movie would actually have been better with slightly lesser actors in two of the roles and more emphasis on just one of them.

    I'm sure being a "Fonda Film" there was some thinly veiled commentary about something or another, but I either didn't catch it or didn't care enough to pay attention. I'd say it's an OK watch if you can find it for free, but maybe not worth paying for.
    10diane-34

    Brilliant in all respects

    The director, Luis Puenzo, crafted an extraordinary vision of the drama that confronts players when they decide to make revolution. Puenzo took us behind the scenes of a sweeping political struggle and made the viewer examine the personal details and the personal confrontations of the actors as they tred the stage of events that were much bigger than themselves.

    I know, I know-all of this has been done before; it's formula scrip work but the brilliance of the cast and the direction make Old Gringo into a movie that you will return to over and over again like a favourite old wine or a dish that you never tire of eating.

    The principal cast of Fonda, Smits and Peck enliven an already sumptuous tapestry woven by Puenzo. The film is visually rich and the eye is as entranced by the beauty of the scenes as much as the mind is satisfied with the meat of the story.

    People owe it to themselves to see such a rich film.
    RachelLone

    A journey of a beginning and an end

    In 1913, Harriet Winslow (Jane Fonda) is hired by a Mexican family as a governess, but she then is kidnapped by Gen Tomas Arroyo (Jimmy Smits) and along with other revolutionaries. She also meets Ambrose Bierce (Gregory Peck), who conceals his true identity and who is ready to die on this foreign land. The three of them form a love triangle, Harriet becomes Tomas's lover and her affection towards Bierce is rather like a daughter to a father. But when Tomas invades the house of Miranda, where his birth father, the master, rapes his mother and where his shoots Mr Miranda dead when he is seventeen, he becomes so haunted by his past and obsessed with the old papers. As he befriends Bierce, he also turns into a ruthless commander. In the end, things get tragic- Harriet is determined to fulfill Bierce' dying wish of not being publicised and Tomas has to face his ultimate punishment. Harriet now is the sole survivor who remembers her two beloved men. 'He said I would forget. But how could I not remember?'

    I really like this film. Jimmy Smits is excellent as the tormented general and Gregory Peck was marvellous as the disillusioned writer and journalist. Jane Fonda is not too bad. The direction is okay, the story is very poignant and twisted. All in all, a nicely done drama.
    6bkoganbing

    Old Gringo Review

    Mexico in the teen years of the last century was no place to be, not even for Mexicans as the country broke down completely after the overthrow of dictator Porfirio Diaz. A lot of people grabbed for power, including one Pancho Villa who got emboldened enough to cross the U.S. border and shoot up Columbus, New Mexico. That got Woodrow Wilson to sending the army to capture Villa without success.

    But that's getting way ahead of this story. It concerns American writer Ambrose Bierce who went to revolutionary Mexico and disappeared into obscurity much in the manner of the French poet Francois Villon. The plot of this film offers a theory as to what could have happened to Bierce.

    Dominating the film is Gregory Peck in the title role. He captures Bierce in all of his sardonic cynicism for which his writing lives on. This Bierce has all the reason to just want to leave his world behind, his wife had recently died, but not after being discovered to be involved with another man. Two of his three children, both of his sons died violent deaths. Bierce was a man who felt he had no reason to live on.

    Peck gets involved with two other people in a romantic triangle, Jane Fonda as a spinster who gets hired to tutor some landowner children and Jimmy Smits who's using the revolution to settle some personal scores with that same landowner family. In fact Smits gets himself rather caught up in the whole ambiance of being to the manor born with what he feels are good reasons.

    All though all three of the leads have been in much better product, Old Gringo still is a good piece of cinema and does capture some of the anarchy that was revolutionary Mexico.

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    • Anecdotes
      Gregory Peck was a close friend of Jane Fonda and frequently attended political rallies with her. This film was the only movie that they appeared in together.
    • Gaffes
      At the end of the movie as Harriet Winslow is crossing the Rio Grande, the river flows from right to left. If she were actually crossing the border from Mexico to America (northward), the river would flow from left to right (eastward).
    • Citations

      Mrs. Winslow: How can you be so disrespectful of your father's memory?

      Harriet Winslow: I'm not being disrespectful, Mother. I'm being honest. From now on, I'm gonna be honest with my father's memory.

    • Connexions
      Edited into The Adventures of Young Indiana Jones: Spring Break Adventure (1999)

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    • How long is Old Gringo?Alimenté par Alexa

    Détails

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    • Date de sortie
      • 27 septembre 1989 (France)
    • Pays d’origine
      • Mexique
      • États-Unis
    • Langues
      • Anglais
      • Espagnol
    • Aussi connu sous le nom de
      • Gringo viejo
    • Lieux de tournage
      • Zacatecas, Mexique
    • Sociétés de production
      • Columbia Pictures
      • Estudios Churubusco Azteca S.A.
      • Fonda Films
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    Box-office

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    • Budget
      • 34 000 000 $US (estimé)
    • Montant brut aux États-Unis et au Canada
      • 3 574 256 $US
    • Week-end de sortie aux États-Unis et au Canada
      • 1 151 749 $US
      • 9 oct. 1989
    • Montant brut mondial
      • 3 574 256 $US
    Voir les infos détaillées du box-office sur IMDbPro

    Spécifications techniques

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    • Durée
      1 heure 59 minutes
    • Couleur
      • Color
    • Mixage
      • Dolby
    • Rapport de forme
      • 1.85 : 1

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