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Shocking dark - Spectres à Venise

Titre original : Terminator II
  • 1989
  • 1h 30min
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4,3/10
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Shocking dark - Spectres à Venise (1989)
ActionAdventureFantasyHorrorSci-FiThriller

Dans un futur pollué, des chercheurs de Venise travaillent à améliorer la situation. Un jour, des forces inconnues commencent à les tuer. Une équipe de soldats et quelques civils sont envoyé... Tout lireDans un futur pollué, des chercheurs de Venise travaillent à améliorer la situation. Un jour, des forces inconnues commencent à les tuer. Une équipe de soldats et quelques civils sont envoyés pour enquêter.Dans un futur pollué, des chercheurs de Venise travaillent à améliorer la situation. Un jour, des forces inconnues commencent à les tuer. Une équipe de soldats et quelques civils sont envoyés pour enquêter.

  • Réalisation
    • Bruno Mattei
  • Scénario
    • Rossella Drudi
    • Claudio Fragasso
  • Casting principal
    • Christopher Ahrens
    • Haven Tyler
    • Geretta Geretta
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    4,3/10
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    • Réalisation
      • Bruno Mattei
    • Scénario
      • Rossella Drudi
      • Claudio Fragasso
    • Casting principal
      • Christopher Ahrens
      • Haven Tyler
      • Geretta Geretta
    • 38avis d'utilisateurs
    • 53avis des critiques
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    Christopher Ahrens
    Christopher Ahrens
    • Fuller
    • (as Cristofer Ahrens)
    Haven Tyler
    Haven Tyler
    • Sara
    Geretta Geretta
    • Koster
    • (as Geretta Giancarlo Field)
    Fausto Lombardi
    Fausto Lombardi
    • Franzini
    • (as Tony Lombardo)
    Mark Steinborn
    • Bond
    Dominica Coulson
    Dominica Coulson
    • Samantha
    Clive Riche
    Clive Riche
    • Drake
    • (as Clive Ricke)
    Paul Norman Allen
    • Kowalsky
    Cortland Reilly
    • Caine
    Richard Ross
    • Price
    Bruce McFarland
    • Colonel Parson
    Richard Berkeley
    • First Scientist
    • (as Richard Bercheley)
    John Champion
    • Second Scientist
    Massimo Vanni
    Massimo Vanni
    • First Soldier
    • (as Alex McBride)
    Elain Richmond
    • Speaker
    Al McFarland
    • Professor Raphelson
    Jim Pelot
    • Technician
    Patricia Sedoc
    • Second Soldier
    • Réalisation
      • Bruno Mattei
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      • Rossella Drudi
      • Claudio Fragasso
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    3Aylmer

    bad, bad, BAD movie... not to be confused with the 1991 film of the same name

    This movie is not actually a sequel to the 1984 James Cameron movie, but more or less a remake of Cameron's 1986 movie ALIENS. The major difference between this movie and Aliens is... well, almost nothing actually.

    The plot, lines of dialog, situations, etc. are all completely identical to those seen in ALIENS, such as the mischievous android who more or less plays the "Burke" role up until he gets damaged a bit, then he goes on a TERMINATOR-style rampage chasing after the woman and the young girl.

    The actual Aliens here are more like genetic mutations, and they don't really look that bad considering they're just guys in monster suits. Whatever they have to do with the plot is negligible since the movie seems to be more of a post-nuke film having to do with soldiers unlocking some government conspiracy deep in the bowels of a futuristic ruined Venice.

    The cast is uniformly awful, with several Americans (some with South African accents) in the cast who appear to have little or no prior acting experience, sort of the same situation with TROLL 2 or CRUEL JAWS where I think the production company just wheeled through K-mart asking people if they wanted to act in a film. Only Fausto Lombardi comes across as anything resembling good, though Chris Ahrens and Janna Ryan are pretty amusing bad movie veterans.

    The musical score for this picture I believe was liberated from a number of other 80's films, including Blade Runner and Miami Cops. Much of the footage (with the explosions, etc.) is taken from Mattei's earlier DOUBLE TARGET too.

    So bad is this film, in fact, that writer/co-director Claudio Fragasso refused to make any more movies with Mattei afterward - and that's saying a lot. I have to say that I enjoyed it to a certain extent, though it's more fun to wonder how they managed to avoid a lawsuit than it is to actually sit down and watch the movie in one sitting. A little too depressing and dull to be unintentionally funny - though it does certainly have its moments.
    3Steve_Nyland

    I ahh ... um ... Boy I just don't know ... words fail me ...

    OK, so I'm not quite a full-time professional critic just yet, dabbled in a few tomes that I hope to peddle, worked as a Mac games journalist for a couple years & then did some freelance writing for a couple other computer geek oriented websites. You know, big deal. But I do pride myself at being able to maintain at least the appearance of having a professional demeanor when it comes to writing about movies or whatever, and one of the things I learned very quickly when reading other people's essays/comments was to avoid using expressions like THIS IS THE WORST MOVIE EVER MADE or EASILY THE WORST MOVIE EVER MADE. A good "THIS SUCKS" every once in a while is legit, since stuff either sucks or it rules.

    Then I saw SHOCKING DARK (or ALIENATORS, as the version I saw was titled) and my view upon such things is shaken. There is an amazingly annoying movie called THE LEGEND OF BIGFOOT that is a fake documentary about a guy's search for Sasquatch that is actually a lot of idle nature photography edited together with vacation footage and then about ten minutes of staged Bigfoot related scenes, one or two of which actually show some schook dressed up like Bigfoot for about 8 seconds in total. At one point they use a rigid, posed, stuffed bear lying on it's side to simulate one of Bigfoot's victims. The most dramatic scene in the film is when a groundhog is hit by a car and it's frantic mate drags it into their hole before a hawk circling overhead can eat them.

    THE LEGEND OF BIGFOOT is a better movie than SHOCKING DARK. JOHN Q. with Denzel Washington was a better movie than SHOCKING DARK. So was CROSSROADS with Britney Spears or even DOOM: THE MOVIE with The Rock, which bears a superficial resemblance to SHOCKING DARK. KID VENGEANCE is a better movie than SHOCKING DARK, and that is saying a lot. The science fiction films of Alfonso Brescia cannot even touch SHOCKING DARK's layers of utter awfulness. Larry Buchanan's ZONTAR - THING FROM VENUS is a cerebral masterpiece by comparison. MEGAFORCE is a better movie. GYMKATA is a better movie. They are silly, goofy, clumsy, cheesy, and hopelessly derivative, but they have the distinction of being watchable.

    I will let others describe the plot: SHOCKING DARK is in many ways like Mattei's far superior (and highly equally stupid) ROBOWAR: It is a collage, a pastiche of moments, lines, specific incidents, plot ideas, individual shots and even the same title as other movies. They are turned on their side, mixed up, jumbled, re-arranged, given slightly different names, and re-assembled into a narrative that serves no point, tells no story, and exists as a collection of 90 second interludes that all segue into each other and are edited together to take on the appearance of a movie. I will admit that the *LOOK* of the film is pretty polished: they found some sort of a huge power plant, hung up a bunch of neon lights, dressed a mob of clowns up like the Power Rangers, and have them scuttling about pretending to be various cast members of ALIENS, PREDATOR, FULL METAL JACKET, ROBOCOP, PLATOON and THE TERMINATOR. If you watch the movie with the sound off it is actually rather impressive looking at times. But if you listen to what the people are saying it is so close to so many other movies we have seen so many times -- but just awkwardly different enough to avoid a lawsuit -- that it is disorienting and annoying. You want to fix it, or straighten the mess out so that it retains the original form Mattei was basing his film on. Sadly, art doesn't work like that and the result is a colossal annoyance.

    The only analogy I can make is to sitting in the crowded waiting room of a doctor you don't particularly enjoy seeing, seated directly across from a really awful mail-order art print that has been framed, hung on the wall, and apparently brushed against by someone so that it's not hanging perfectly square. You sit in this chair and stare at this schwag art print and the only thing you can think of is how many other things you could be doing at that moment, and how pathetic that picture looks hanging there crooked. But since it isn't your picture in your office and there are other people present all you can do is sit there and suffer, waiting to be called for your turn. And then when you go back again the next month, the stupid picture is still hanging in the same crooked way, and it is time to sit and wait and stare at it all over again. The exasperation of futility.

    That is what watching SHOCKING DARK is like when viewed the same way one would watch any other movie. My advice is to not do so, listen to some tunes or something, and that's why this is such a great party movie. It's awful, but if you need random cool looking images with violence and explosions while some Ozzy blares, this should be your first pick. Anyone else will need blood pressure medication before the thing is even half over: THE MOST ANNOYING MOVIE EVER MADE. There, I said it.

    3/10
    7Judexdot1

    Classic Mattei hodgepodge

    Everybody was bootlegging this one for years, as "Aliens 2", "Terminator 2", and the classic "Alienators". In a near future Venice that is sinking away, various soldiers for "The Tubular Corporation" try to cover-up and destroy evidence that the art museums are being looted for their treasures. Nearby genetic scientists unveil their latest mutant creation, which promptly escapes and hides in the ruined city. Eventually, the soldiers get help from the mysterious "Samuel Fuller", quickly revealed as a cybernetic soldier, out to capture and exploit the mutant creation. Soon, it's all-out chaos with the monsters fighting soldiers,with cyborgs out to profit from it all, for the Corporation. Jenna Ryan is great as the prerequisite tough soldier, and should really get better roles. It's got a piece of everything, and pits it all against each other, until a spacey psychedelic climax of cosmic proportions. I have it as "Shocking Dark", with a brief shot of a still that says "Alienators"
    2TCurtis9192

    SHOCKING DARK

    "SHOCKING DARK" (1989, Mattei) needs to be held accountable for a few things before it is applauded for anything.

    1. It is a shameless rip-off of "ALIENS" (1986, Cameron), having look-alike actors, copied characters, and stolen scenarios, scenes, dialogue and themes. 2. Music is a blatant copy of John Williams' "JAWS" (1974, Spielberg), Jerry Goldsmith's and James Horner's scores for "ALIEN" (1979, Scott) and "ALIENS" respectively; other music is okay but not great. 3. The acting is really very bad and made worse when you realise the cast are often impersonating the cast of "ALIENS" but really badly. The little girl, our new Newt, is really irritating. 4. It was released as "TERMINATOR 2" and just when you settle into the "ALIENS" plot an element of "TERMINATOR" (1984, Cameron) is introduced. This Terminator is the most annoying Terminator imaginable. 5. The costumes worn by the protagonists are pathetic and the "mega force" is a childish sounding name. 6. There's virtually no gore whatsoever. 7. Awful final 20 minutes.

    The good points: 1. It opens intriguingly. 2. The monsters are really very good. Not "ALIENS" good but good.
    Michael_Elliott

    Mattei At It Again

    Terminator II (1989)

    ** (out of 4)

    This here is a Bruno Mattei film so that right there tells you that it must be a rip-off of something much better. The title will make it seems as if this is trying to cash-in on the success of James Cameron's THE TERMINATOR but instead this is actually a rip on his film ALIENS. The story is pretty simple as the setting is a futuristic Venice where soldiers and civilians are living underground but soon there's a breach and people are getting attacked by a creature.

    If you've seen ALIENS then you're pretty much going to recognize countless scenes here. Look, Mattei wasn't an original person and it's doubtful he could really make what most would call a "good" movie but at the same time his name has pretty much become a cult favorite and a sub-genre all its own. I mean, not only did this guy rip off ALIENS but there are also rips on PREDATOR, DAWN OF THE DEAD, CANNIBAL HOLOCAUST, ROBOCOP, JAWS and countless other movies. People can call him a hack and a no-talent freak but the man did carve out a rather interesting piece of history for himself.

    TERMINATOR II, also known as SHOCKING DARK, ALIENS 2 and countless other titles, isn't nearly as bad as you might think but at the same time there's no question that there's not too much going on here. The biggest problem I had with the movie is the fact that the majority of the action takes place in the dark and more times than not it's really difficult to see what's going on. Also, the monster outfit looks decent considering the low-budget but at the same time he has got to be the biggest sissy in horror film history. There are countless times where he will grab someone yet the smallest thing makes him let go to where the body count is rather small.

    The performances are pretty much what you'd expect in a movie like this. The dialgoue is downright awful at times including a bunch of racial fighting, which makes you wonder if DAY OF THE DEAD was another thing getting ripped off. TERMINATOR II came out two years before the official sequel and it remains an mildly entertaining rip-off.

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      Filmed in late 1988 - early 1989, and shown once at a French film festival in May 1989, but did not go into wide release until August 1990. This was released in many areas outside of the United States with the title "Terminator II", a supposed "sequel" to James Cameron's Terminator (1984), despite having nothing to do with Cameron's film. Due to rights issues, it wasn't released in the United States until 2018, when Severin Films released the film on DVD and Blu-ray.
    • Gaffes
      When Samuel Fuller falls off the railing, it is clearly a dummy. It's made even more obvious when it hits off a pipe and the head comes flying off.
    • Citations

      Samuel Fuller: Just what do you think you are going to do to me with that? It won't even scratch me.

    • Versions alternatives
      The Japanese cut of the film is several minutes longer than any other print. Additional scenes include a prologue, an introduction to Geretta Geretta's character, and several minutes of the remaining team wandering throughout the tunnels looking for the Tubular Corporation Command Center.
    • Connexions
      Edited from Double target - Cibles à abattre (1987)

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      • 22 août 1990 (Italie)
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    • Langues
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      • Italien
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    • Lieux de tournage
      • Venice, Italie(additional location)
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