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Na Cama e no Sofá

Título original: Tretya meshchanskaya
  • 1927
  • 1 h 26 min
AVALIAÇÃO DA IMDb
7,3/10
1,4 mil
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Na Cama e no Sofá (1927)
ComedyDrama

Adicionar um enredo no seu idiomaA married couple have a small apartment in Moscow. When an old friend of the husband's arrives in the city, he is unable to find lodgings. Kolia, the husband, invites his friend to move in w... Ler tudoA married couple have a small apartment in Moscow. When an old friend of the husband's arrives in the city, he is unable to find lodgings. Kolia, the husband, invites his friend to move in with them.A married couple have a small apartment in Moscow. When an old friend of the husband's arrives in the city, he is unable to find lodgings. Kolia, the husband, invites his friend to move in with them.

  • Direção
    • Abram Room
  • Roteiristas
    • Viktor Shklovskiy
    • Abram Room
  • Artistas
    • Vladimir Fogel
    • Nikolay Batalov
    • Lyudmila Semyonova
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  • AVALIAÇÃO DA IMDb
    7,3/10
    1,4 mil
    SUA AVALIAÇÃO
    • Direção
      • Abram Room
    • Roteiristas
      • Viktor Shklovskiy
      • Abram Room
    • Artistas
      • Vladimir Fogel
      • Nikolay Batalov
      • Lyudmila Semyonova
    • 11Avaliações de usuários
    • 12Avaliações da crítica
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  • Veja as informações de produção no IMDbPro
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    Vladimir Fogel
    Vladimir Fogel
    • Volodia, a Printer
    Nikolay Batalov
    Nikolay Batalov
    • Kolia, the Husband
    Lyudmila Semyonova
    Lyudmila Semyonova
    • Liuda Semyonova, the Wife
    Leonid Yurenev
    • Building Superintendent
    Yelena Sokolova
    • Clinic Nurse
    Mariya Yarotskaya
    Mariya Yarotskaya
    • Paesant at the Clinic
    • Direção
      • Abram Room
    • Roteiristas
      • Viktor Shklovskiy
      • Abram Room
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    7lee_eisenberg

    kicking the rock

    "Tretya meshchanskaya" (called "Bed and Sofa" in English) is what I would consider the Soviet Union's version of "Some Like It Hot": what it portrays was no doubt really mind-blowing when it was first released, even if it doesn't seem so much nowadays.

    The movie portrays Kolya (Nikolay Batalov) and Lyuda (Lyudmila Semyonova) living in a Moscow apartment. Kolya is a mild goof-ball whose proudest feature seems to be his hairy chest, while Lyuda is clearly unfulfilled in life and looks stern all the time. One day, Kolya's war buddy Volodya (Vladimir Fogel) arrives and asks if he can live with them. They agree, but then Volodya does more than eat up his welcome mat! One interesting scene is early in the movie when Volodya kicks a rock into the river. When the rock hits the water, it naturally creates ripples. This may mean that everything's about to get upset. All in all, worth seeing.
    8samanthamarciafarmer

    Great early film that has interesting take on gender roles!

    Early on, The Extraordinary Adventures of Mr. West in the Land of the Bolsheviks is a comedy and meant to be understood as such. Magazines showing how barbaric Russia is alleged to be are exaggerated, but so is the Americanness of Mr. West; no one just carries around an American flag and spangled socks. Kuleshov's work in this film is not as serious as his contemporaries Eisenstein or Vertov, and perhaps as such there appears to be less esoteric uses of montage. It's present in small snatches like cuts to a shot of West's briefcase or a tea kettle boiling, but the technique is subtler than other films of the experimental left at the time. That doesn't mean it lacks technicality, though. The chase scene is masterful and clear despite rapid changes of perspective from horseback to automobile, and Jeddy's stunts are impressive. The directorial choice to include a backdrop of the Cathedral of Christ the Savior was surely no accident, and it places the film in a setting that is distinctly Moscow. And although it was added after, the music accompaniment often drives an otherwise dragging plot. The inclusion of Yankee Doodle Dandy is particularly amusing and fits the goofy mood. One has to wonder, however, if it sat well with Bolshevik ideology. Besides showing what Russians thought of Americans and vice versa, the only inclusion of real Bolshevik society was a tour by a police officer at the end; additionally, the depiction of the poverty and moral depravity of the con-artists provide a not-so-flattering view of Russia. Through the lens of comedy, however, it might be excused. Mr. West, in sum, is a comedy with sequences reminiscent of the Three Stooges, and such an over the top production would surely not have been handled as competently in the hands of a lesser director than Lev Kuleshov.
    9ethanoel

    an exhilarating erotic comedy still astonishes a modern viewer

    recently i have watched many silent films from the 1920s and early 1930s. it has been somewhat an embarrassing but at the same time also a thrilling discovery or perhaps almost a revelation to realize how there are dozens of hidden gems. it is a sad fact that few people are interested and bother enough to watch silent films these days on their full HD or 4K TVs - the silent classics are of course oddities for the vast majority of the dull and therefore quite rare presentations on the commercial television channels or in film festivals anyway.

    but you should keep them in mind when searching for new experiences if you want to be taken seriously as a film buff. take this abram room's "bed and sofa" (Третья мещанская) from 1927 for instance. what an amazing discovery for anyone who thinks a silent film is an American slapstick comedy or in this case if it is particularly a soviet silent film it ought be some eisenstein pudovkin or dovzhenko or other political propagandist vehicle. well, this is not: it is an erotic marriage comedy and a sort of a comedy that succeeds - still - to astonish the audience after 90 years of its first appearance.

    there are many appropriate though inexhaustible plot keywords to describe the story: open marriage/ polyamory/ sexual liberation/ swinging twenties in the NEP soviet Russia/ womens liberation/ latent homosexuality etc. from these keywords alone you may figure out that in 1927 it was somehow both a reflection of its freewheeling times and sexual morals and also in the broader historical and sociological perspective lightyears ahead of its time. Bolshevist attitude and soviet state policy towards sex and marriage was quite liberal or avantgardist throughout the twenties partly because of the collapse of traditional society (though only in the cities!) and partly because marriage was seen as an irrelevant and old-fashioned remnant of bourgeois social order (as religion) but the mood was already gradually changing by the late twenties; if this film would have been made ten years later the director could have ended up in serious trouble.

    i may well imagine that NKVD would probably have visited room at 4 o'clock in the morning (the usual visiting hour of Stalin's own wolves) and the immediate shot in the neck or at least a long-term visit to the gulag with outdoor forced labor in vorkuta would have resulted after a short interrogation and mock trial. but back in 1927 Stalin was not yet in the absolute power and the governmental supervision of films in the country was not that strict. however, as a reflection of the changing times, room's film already underwent alongside with many other films of the era severe criticism about the lack of its political awareness.

    by the way the accidental and innocent kiss between the male leading characters in this love triangle still remains of the rare "homoerotic" kisses in all soviet/Russian cinema. i am not sure if it is even the only one!? at least in putin's Russia that kind of audacity would be totally impossible. as you know homosexuality was virtually "nonexistent" in the soviet union so there was no reason to portray it in the films, either.
    gebius5

    They say great minds think alike...

    If this film was not explicitly the inspiration for Truffaut's Jules and Jim then he and Room certainly had the same muse singing on their shoulders. A fascinating silent film, very influential and far ahead of its time.
    10I_Ailurophile

    Phenomenal, essential, and deeply underappreciated!

    It definitely doesn't hold true across the board, yet it can be the mark of a great film that nearly from the moment it begins it makes an impression and sweeps one up in its craftsmanship. With outstanding, sharp, vibrant shot composition, cinematography, and editing, and low-key and plainspoken but true and artful depictions of a city, a home, and their inhabitants, this 1927 film is immediately, inescapably charming and even entrancing before any semblance of a story has even begun to take shape. 'Bed and sofa' is so plainly beautiful just to look at that it carries a certain whimsical quality to it, a trait that extends to the outstanding performances of prominent principals Nikolai Batalov, Lyudmila Semyonova, and Vladimir Fogel - acting of tightly controlled but natural spirit and nuance. In no time at all this 1927 feature inspires as a masterful classic, and that notion will only be affirmed as the length draws on. This is phenomenal, and direly underappreciated!

    The keen vision of director Abram Room and cinematographer Grigorii Giber allows the ordinary to feel extraordinary, revitalized, and refreshing. Incidentally, whether it was intentional or not, this quite dovetails into the primary thrust of the narrative penned between Room and Viktor Shklovsky - the excitement and rejuvenation brought into the lives one way or another of housewife Liuda, and her husband Kolia, by the arrival of companion Volodia. Tremendously smart scene writing adjoins the shrewd aforementioned direction, cinematography, editing, and acting in molding the picture with magnificent, clever subtlety and suggestion; no detail of any kind is too small to escape the attention and wit of the creative minds who brought the title to vivid life. When the feature does present story beats and ideas more starkly, they ring out all the clearer for the supreme tact with which this is otherwise conjured and constructed. Truly, I can't overstate how stupendous this is.

    The excellence of 'Bed and sofa' very much extends to the lovely production design and art direction, costume design, hair, and makeup. Everything about this looks fantastic, nevermind the strength of the storytelling at large as fraught, shifting dynamics emerge in a love triangle between husband, wife, and visitor. Why, even in that very premise this movie broaches thoughts that were otherwise rather pointedly avoided in cinema up this time, and beyond, or at least delicately danced around. This is to say nothing of other emphatic plot points, equally if not even more taboo and treated just as unreservedly, nor the general portraiture served up of the working class in the Soviet Union. Take these considerations together with the emotional undercurrents, the especial drama and themes of the last minutes, and the exquisite, expert splendor that the film represents in every capacity, and the result is nothing less than an incredible exemplar, a neglected treasure of the medium.

    For every conceivable reason I assumed I would enjoy this, but to speak frankly, I was wrong: I love it. In every single way this is one of the most engrossing, striking, satisfying, and downright rewarding movies that I've seen. Other comparisons due come to mind in terms of the level on which this operates, but they are very, very few. From the very beginning to the very end I was absolutely hooked, and there is no aspect of this picture that is anything less than terrific. There are few perfect movies in the world, but Abram Room made one of them. It's sad that this isn't more widely well known, because even almost one hundred years later it still stands wonderfully tall, and as far as I'm concerned this is a must-see. 'Bed and sofa' is a superb masterpiece of early cinema, and is not to be missed - this is one title that's well worth seeking out! My highest recommendation!

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      The film's Russian title is Tretya Meshchanskaya (Third Meschanskaya), the name of a then actual Moscow Street. The word "meschantsvo" however had come to be associated with petty-bourgeois vulgarianism and materialism - reflected in the muddle of ornaments and possessions in the apartment.
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      Featured in I Am an Ox, I Am a Horse, I Am a Man, I Am a Woman (1988)

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    • Data de lançamento
      • 15 de março de 1927 (União Soviética)
    • País de origem
      • União Soviética
    • Idiomas
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      • Russo
    • Também conhecido como
      • Bed and Sofa
    • Locações de filme
      • Bolshoi Theatre, Theatre Square, Tverskoy District, Moscou, Rússia(Construction site of the future Bolshoi Theatre, with large statuary already in place, and full view of the garden in front of it.)
    • Empresa de produção
      • Sovkino
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    • Tempo de duração
      1 hora 26 minutos
    • Cor
      • Black and White
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      • Silent
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      • 1.33 : 1

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