barrese

As an average person, looks minimally better to me. Considering I got the Kino on order from Amazon for half the price of the Arrow, I think I'm good with Kino. Thanks for helping reassure me.

cochon

The Kino is good, the difference for me does not justify a double dip on this one.

yougottaguys

This is looking like a must buy, glad I didn't get the Kino. Although I live in a part of the world where it's too expensive to import US releases anyway.

Wintermute

That's understandable. I tend to be pretty OCD about it; knowing that an even slightly better version exists makes me much less inclined to watch the inferior one again, which defeats the purpose of owning it. But you have to pick your battles, I suppose.

jtsjc1

I'll probably get this because the movie is a favorite of mine. I have the Kino and honestly I don't see a huge difference in the two. The Arrow does look slightly better but we're not talking dvd to blu comparison here. To each his own I don't fault anyone for buying or not buying we all have to consider what we spend and sometimes I'd rather wait for something coming out that's a big upgrade from what I have.

Dailyan

The PQ might be negligible but the audio is the real reason for the upgrade.

lazerface

Yeah, transfer looks identical, will stick with the Kino i paid $15 for

DonaldMcDonald

Exactly, the audio upgrade is massive.

eChopper

THE Other advantage

ARROW discs are made at Sony Austria

KINO discs come with complimentary scratches and finger prints from an apocalyptic 3rd world dump

cochon

Perhaps the discs you receive might be specifically selected for you?


Mine is scratch free.

eChopper

31 pages of people showing scratched discs from mexico

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=362133

were these scratched discs specifically selected for these people sherlock?

JRcanReid

I am absolutely convinced I have spotted character actor Robert Costanzo in this movie, though I can't find him credited anywhere for it. It's a 12 second shot beginning at exactly 46:46. He's a cop carrying a portable CB. He's in the middle of the frame and hands the CB to Inspector Daniels (the great Julius Harris). It's like 12 seconds.

I believe it's him. He's the guy who gives John McClane a parking ticket at Dulles Airport at the beginning of Die Hard 2 who says he hates Los Angeles. Am I wrong?

Jackie Scanlon

Agree it looks a bit like him, but it's definitely not him. Costanzo himself has said in numerous interviews that his very first screen appearance was in Dog Day Afternoon as an uncredited background player (you can see him briefly two or three times in the Attacca scene), and prior to that he had only done some theatre work.

Jorvic

Played my disc last night. It's one of the few Kino 4Ks I didn't buy so can't compare with that. Thought it was pretty nice (if it's possible to describe the kind of realism seen in the visuals in this way) for the most part in DV. Also thought I noticed some slightly odd soupy effect in the grain in the interior of the train for a few scenes. Not complaining too much though when the occasionally bright colours (such as the blue police cars or the yellow tie worn by one of the main characters) and overall clarity look as good as this.

Watching Walter Matthau here does make me wish Charley Varrick would get a 4K at some point.

DoubleHelix

Differences between the mono tracks?

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Arrow Wins

https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?go=1&...226362&i=5&l=1

eChopper

as usual , Kino shown as the encoding deadbeats they really are