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In discussions about clean Hydrogen, there is a popular idea floating around, particularly in countries like Germany or Japan that import large parts of their current fossil fuel energy. Instead of importing fossil fuels, the story goes, we will import large quantities of Hydrogen in the future from places where wind and sun are plentiful, and therefore, renewable energy is cheap. The problem with this idea is that Hydrogen is really difficult to transport. ⚡💧🚢🏭 🧵

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in reply to hanno

So people came up with another idea: instead of importing Hydrogen itself, one could ship Ammonia, and convert that back into Hydrogen in facilities called Ammonia Crackers. The problem with that? It makes absolutely no sense. The main use of Hydrogen is the production of Ammonia, and converting one chemical to another just to convert it back merely creates an effective machine to lose useful energy and burn money. This conclusion seems inevitable.
in reply to hanno

I cannot stop them, but I can keep complaining about it. Therefore, I made this video: youtube.com/watch?v=qCZyadbK2K…

What do you think? Is there any defensible case for building Ammonia Crackers? I don't think so, but I'm open to hearing your arguments. #hydrogen #ammonia #ammoniacrackers

in reply to hanno

aren’t the losses when transporting liquified cryogenic hydrogen less than the round-trip through ammonia??
in reply to Z̈oé ⛵

@uint8_t No. LH2 gets a price for being an even worse idea than Ammonia Crackers.
in reply to hanno

Solar collectors on half of the worlds roofs is more energy than is used today ALL SOURCES oil, nuke, wind, sun, geothermal.

Over and over the Oil industry, not just Exxon, produces lies and rumours.

One Top Lie and Rumour is "we-need-a-new-solution" to get clean energy. In news, all over our movies, they pretend there is a need for "a solution"

The solution is: End the blocks preventing the deployment of solar and wind.

Just Build It NOW!

yahoo.com/news/solar-panels-ha…

#climate

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in reply to Kevin Russell

@kevinrns
The article states that half of the world's rooftops could generate all of the current *electricity* needs of the world (doesn't mention the other forms of direct energy usage). Nevertheless, it points to the real problem: energy storage. That's the problem they try to solve with hydrogen, which I also don't think is a good solution. But I'm not a scientist or engineer.
in reply to António Manuel Dias

Nuclear powered electricity, carbon powered electricity, geothermal powered electricity.

Energy storage cost is falling like a rock, and solar and battery together made up over 80% of new American energy construction.

Hurry on getting to the article, the dictatorship is taking them down.
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"Solar and battery storage to make up 81% of new U.S. electric-generating capacity in 2024"

eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.p…

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in reply to António Manuel Dias

The Canadian side of Niagara Falls is a source of electricity for Canada and the US, it is also a massive battery, holding vast amounts of water, ready to produce power if needed.

EVs dont last as long as their batteries do, and EV battery recycling is already a very successful, into utility grade storage.

forbes.com/sites/jamiehailston…

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in reply to António Manuel Dias

I hope this doesn't land as dunning you, but here is today's story on connecting the newest largest battery system in Europe.

Zenobe said the first phase of its project at Blackhillock, was now live with capacity to store enough power to supply 200 megawatts of electricity for two hours. It is due to be expanded to 300 megawatts by next year, enough to supply 3.1 million homes, 👉 more than every household in Scotland.

science.slashdot.org/story/25/…

#Climate

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in reply to Jaakko Niemi

@liiwi
Biden taxed the corporations who had been untaxed since boomers watched morning cartoons. Biden raised a trillion and half dollars that OAC, Bernie and Dems spent in climate. Billions for free heat pumps, multiple offshore windfarms, miles of solar farms, solar roofs.

Created HISTORIC job levels, increased unionisation.

Advocate for social changes you'd like, don't put it in the way of building New Energy, full employment, taxing who got rich avoiding their responsibilities

in reply to Jaakko Niemi

@liiwi
Liberal democracies must build enough solar, wind to end carbon fuel use, constitutional monarchies have to build sun, socialist aspiring states need to, emerging democracies, receding democracies, industrialised states need to build wind, le francophonie doit remplacer l'huile, Latin nations must install battery systems, communist labeled states must increase production of solar cells, pretty corrupt municipalities must purchase EV fleets, really nice aunts must divest from oil.