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mcovington-takara opened this issue May 6, 2025 · 7 comments
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miniforge3 tries to access anaconda.org when creating a conda environment #784

mcovington-takara opened this issue May 6, 2025 · 7 comments
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The issue:

While working on a system that has anaconda.org blocked by IT, creation of a conda environment fails because miniforge3 attempts to connect to https//conda.anaconda.org/conda-forge/osx-64. Both conda config --show channels and conda config --show-sources show that the only channel in the config is conda-forge. Is there a way to avoid contacting anaconda.org?

The command:

conda create --name test_env conda-forge::python==3.12.5

The portions of the error mentioning anaconda:

requests.exceptions.ConnectionError: HTTPSConnectionPool(host='conda.anaconda.org', port=443): Max retries exceeded with url: /conda-forge/osx-64/repodata.json.zst (Caused by ProtocolError('Connection aborted.', ConnectionResetError(54, 'Connection reset by peer')))

raise CondaHTTPError(
conda.exceptions.CondaHTTPError: HTTP 000 CONNECTION FAILED for url <[https://conda.anaconda.org/conda-forge/osx-64/repodata.json>](https://conda.anaconda.org/conda-forge/osx-64/repodata.json%3E)
Elapsed: -


An HTTP error occurred when trying to retrieve this URL.
HTTP errors are often intermittent, and a simple retry will get you on your way.
'https//conda.anaconda.org/conda-forge/osx-64'
@mcovington-takara mcovington-takara added the question Further information is requested label May 6, 2025
@mcovington-takara mcovington-takara changed the title miniforge3 tries to access https://conda.anaconda.org/conda-forge/osx-64/repodata.json when creating a conda environment miniforge3 tries to access anaconda.org when creating a conda environment May 6, 2025
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hmaarrfk commented May 6, 2025

good luck, we host on anaconda.org.

work with your IT.

https://anaconda.org/conda-forge/

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hmaarrfk commented May 6, 2025

you can make your own mirror....

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hmaarrfk commented May 6, 2025

Reopening because:

It would be interesting to document how your IT works around this.

Perhaps there is something that can be shared to the community.

But today, Anaconda.org supplies us with storage space and plenty to tech support. it can't be ignored.
Please read https://conda-forge.org/blog/2020/11/20/anaconda-tos/ and share with your IT.

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@hmaarrfk - Thank you for explaining the dependency and for linking to the blog post. I will share this information and add any updates here.

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@hmaarrfk - Quick follow-up: If IT were to block only repo.anaconda.com rather than all anaconda.com, would that allow miniforge3 to function with conda-forge and bioconda channels?

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hmaarrfk commented May 6, 2025

@hmaarrfk - Quick follow-up: If IT were to block only repo.anaconda.com rather than all anaconda.com, would that allow miniforge3 to function with conda-forge and bioconda channels?

I'm not sure please troubleshoot with them.

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I am not 100% sure, but I guess that by using https://repo.prefix.dev/conda-forge instead of conda-forge you can avoid anaconda.org:

conda create -n testprefix -c https://repo.prefix.dev/conda-forge --override-channels python==3.12.5

should avoid to contact anaconda.org at all. See https://prefix.dev/blog/towards_a_vendor_lock_in_free_conda_experience for more info.

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