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unnervingduck opened this issue Aug 10, 2024 · 9 comments
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Panoramax street-imagery plugin #20555

unnervingduck opened this issue Aug 10, 2024 · 9 comments
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@unnervingduck
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Describe the idea (required)

A plugin that shows street-imagery from https://panoramax.fr as a map layer, much like the existing Mapillary one. At minimum it would only have to show an overlay on the map with the recorded portions.

Tell us about the expected behaviour (required)

The plugin would ideally be similar to the Mapillary plugin, but even just an overlay that shows the already recorded streets would suffice. This would greatly help recording new imagery, as you could plan your routes directly on OsmAnd to cover all streets.

Tell us about alternatives you've considered (required)

Mapillary as a service is not preferable due to the acquisition by Facebook, which as a company has a nasty track record. The alternatives such as KartaView aren't viable options in the long-term either, because stalled development can essentially kill the service.

Panoramax is federated and ensures it's not controlled by a single entity, and has openly licensed imagery ready to be used by everyone.

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Panoramax was recently integrated into the iD editor: https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Juicio/diary/404174

@vshcherb vshcherb added the Nice to Have Should be fixed but there is no priority or no possibility to fix it within current horizon planning label Aug 13, 2024
@Al-Hun
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Al-Hun commented Oct 9, 2024

Hello !
At least the 'panoramax' tag should be used to show in the "on line pictures" displayed when clicking on a POI : at this time this tag is used on nearly 2300 objects in OSM, and will increase since the Panoramax project is yet implemented by new countries.
On the other side it would be a way to get good pictures of POI (as WikiMedia's ones) having the option to send photo notes to Panoramax : always better than pictures taken on the way from a car to illustrate important POI, increasing the touristic feature of Osmand. If done il will be important to confirm the good location and direction of the picture before sending.

@pietervdvn
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Since MapComplete uses a panoramax instance, the number of tags is quickly increasing: https://taghistory.raifer.tech/?#***/panoramax/

Our instance is however not yet federated with panoramax.xyz (but should be soon) - which should be the main access point for OsmAnd.

@scaidermern
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To support Panoramax, two things are necessary:

  • Support the panoramax=* tag on OSM elements. This tag works the same way as the image=*, wikimedia_commons=* and mapillary=* tags. Adding support for this should be easy.
  • Support a Panoramax overlay similar to the Mapillary overlay. This probably requires more effort.

Maybe these two tasks should be separated from each other as they don't have much in common.

@pietervdvn
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Support the panoramax=* tag on OSM elements. This tag works the same way as the image=, wikimedia_commons= and mapillary=* tags. Adding support for this should be easy.

You need to make a query to panoramax.xyz, which will return the location of the HD and SD version to display, so a little bit more involved. However, there are relatively little use for this right now (<3K elements, for comparison: mapillary is > 350k), so I'd understand not supporting this at this point in time.

Support a Panoramax overlay similar to the Mapillary overlay. This probably requires more effort.

The server publishes a MVT-tile for this (but I don't use it in MapComplete)

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mnalis commented Nov 5, 2024

You need to make a query to panoramax.xyz, which will return the location of the HD and SD version to display, so a little bit more involved.

According to https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Panoramax#For_developers there is an even easier approach: just request https://api.panoramax.xyz/api/pictures/{hash}/sd.jpg (where {hash} is the hash value from panoramax=* key (note that just like with mapillary=*, there could be multiple hashes separated by semicolon; but also just like there, that happens only rarely)

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Hedaja commented Nov 23, 2024

However, there are relatively little use for this right now (<3K elements, for comparison: mapillary is > 350k), so I'd understand not supporting this at this point in time.

MapCompelete just moved all of it's images that were hosted on imgur to panoramax. The usage therefore has jumped to 35k I think it's worth supporting is as the usage will just keep increasing.

@mariush444
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mariush444 commented Jan 1, 2025

let osmand's team to know if my idea #21656 is solution for you.
Please vote or start discussion.

@bdwz-osm
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bdwz-osm commented May 13, 2025 8000

Now nearly at 50k tags and counting. I intend on helping to increase that myself.

In my opinion, it is already extremely necessary to have Panoramax support as an alternative to Mapillary. If I want to add relevant images as tags for PoIs and have them actually show up in OsmAnd, currently the only option for that requires me to grant Meta an unlimited license to the pictures I took "for a period of ninety-nine (99) years". I don't work for Meta, nor do they contractually bind me in corporate-managed cloud-based indentured servitude. Ideally they should have to deal with a CC BY-SA license like everyone else would.

Please add this. It will finally be the OSM community's answer to Google Maps having images for PoIs on mobile. Or at least, it would be the answer which lines up in-spirit with the ODbL.

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mfuhrmann commented Jun 3, 2025

MapCompelete just moved all of it's images that were hosted on imgur to panoramax. The usage therefore has jumped to 35k I think it's worth supporting is as the usage will just keep increasing.

It is super comfortable to add pictures using MapComplete 👍

Please add this. It will finally be the OSM community's answer to Google Maps having images for PoIs on mobile. Or at least, it would be the answer which lines up in-spirit with the ODbL.

I think the same. Even if it sounds strange. Having photos in the maps is a killer feature and will bring a lot of benefit. Adding pictures easily and seeing them by default is important.

I spend time into mapping playgrounds. But the object does not matter of course. It is all about the presentation. Have a look and decide what looks more interesting.

MapComplete

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OsmAnd web map

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OrganicMaps web map

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MapComplete isn't a good Gmaps alternative by design I think, because you have to specify which things you want to see, edit or add. But OsmAnd, OrganicMaps or what else is out there will benefit a lot IMO.


edit: It is the same with reviews btw.

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